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[2:45] One of the biggest things to consider when you are doing anything as a side hustle, copywriting or otherwise, is to treat it like a business.

[4:59] Clients will still work with you outside daytime hours. There shouldn’t be too many client calls and you can schedule them during evenings or weekends. Avoid telling your client this is a side hustle as you don’t want to send the message that this work is not a priority.

[8:59] As you start to pitch and get excited about landing clients, it’s tempting to want to say “yes” to every client. But when your hours are limited, you need to be very intentional with how you choose projects and set the timeline for those projects.

[10:10] Nicki and Kate discuss the importance of determining your business boundaries with clients and sticking to them.

[13:00] It’s easy to treat a side hustle as “bonus” money coming in, but don’t forget you still need to pay taxes on that income. You should also track any money that you’re spending for your business.

[14:45] Be realistic about the time you have and the time you want to take off. It can help to visually block time out on the calendar for different activities so you know what is sustainable.

[17:36] When it comes to timing, you also need to factor in the times of the year you might want to work more or less. For example, teachers might want to ramp up their side hustle work over summer.

[19:30] Nicki and Kate recommend starting with copywriting as a side hustle before transitioning to full-time copywriting. Jumping in with both feet can work well for some people, but not others.

[21:17] Knowing your numbers is important to help you understand what you need to make ends meet. You’ll have a better idea of how many clients you need and how much you need to pitch.

[24:43] To make the transition from side hustle to full time a little easier, you’re going to have to dial up your side hustle hours before leaving your full-time job. 

[26:20] Remembering your big “why” can be really motivating in those moments where you’re dialing up your freelance hours and working extra hard. And don’t forget to make it fun, too!

Must-Hear Takeaways

“One of the biggest things to consider when you are doing anything as a side hustle, copywriting or otherwise, is to treat it like a business. Because if you are treating a side hustle like a hobby or like a ‘nice to have’, then you’re not going to see the results that you want to see. If you treat it like a hobby, it will be a hobby. It might be fun, but it might not bring you the income, the revenue that you want to receive. So you have to go into it knowing that it is a business. It’s your business.” – Kate

“You have to take every element of your business just as seriously as if you were doing it full time. And that includes your finances as well. But that also includes tracking any money that you’re spending for your business. If you are buying supplies for your business, track those as well. Treat it just the same as you would if you were doing it full time.” – Nicki

“I think one of the things to note too with client communication is that your client shouldn’t know that this is a side hustle per se. They don’t need to know that this is something that you’re doing extra or on top of a full-time job. They don’t need to know the details of what’s going on in your life beyond that because I think there can be a connotation with some clients of this is just a side hustle, this is just something they’re doing extra on top of a full-time job. You don’t want to send the message that this is secondary. You want to always present yourself as this client is the most, and this project is the most important thing on my plate.” – Kate

“Jumping in with both feet is probably not a great plan for you if you can possibly help it. If you have a full-time job and you’re fine with your full-time job or it’s not making you too miserable, can you build up your side hustle income and build up your client base so that you have an easier transition into full-time freelancing?” “One of the biggest things is knowing your numbers. What do you comfortably need to live month to month to pay the bills?” – Nicki & Kate

Mentioned on this Episode

• Build a Copywriting Business While Working 9 to 5 (with Grace Nelson)
• Copywriting as a Side Hustle – Alicia’s Story
• How to Be a Part-Time Copywriter with a Full-Time Job
• Balancing a Copywriting Career with an Acting Career
• Building a Copywriting Side Hustle With a Full-Time Job – Claire’s Story
• Bridging the Gap from Quitting a Job to Full-Time Freelance

Related Links

• Can Copywriting Be a Side Hustle?
• How to Be a Part-Time Copywriter from Home
• The Secret to Sustaining Freelance Copywriting Success

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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Ep. 188: Pivoting to Copywriting Later in Your Career – Kelly’s Story

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As you dip your toes into copywriting, one of the first questions you might ask is: Can I really make that much money as a writer?

And it’s no wonder—frankly, we’ve stopped counting how many times we hear people say, “You can’t make good money as a writer.” 

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Copywriting is by far the best way for a writer to earn a living. And the good news is, there has literally never been a better time to be one!

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[3:07] CCA student Indigo is working as an actor while also doing copywriting. She is finding it difficult to switch her mindset between these two careers and often finds herself putting all of her energy into just one of them at a time.

[4:17] Nicki advises using the techniques she already knows when switching between roles as an actress, and applying the same tactics when switching from acting to copywriting. 

[5:58] To ensure higher focus and productivity, Nicki suggests setting aside dedicated hours for copywriting work based on the time that is available to her.

[8:14] Taking small steps consistently can help reduce overwhelm and make sure that you’re still progressing, even when time is limited. If Indigo has an acting job, Kate recommends setting aside just 15 minutes a day to work on pitching for example, rather than trying to achieve something much more unrealistic.

[10:53] Copywriting is an awesome career but it’s still normal to face some resistance. Schedule time to do it when you are at your freshest and most creative, and commit to the time you have set.

[13:32] It is wise to keep two different careers separate in terms of branding and websites, but it is still fine to use the same name for both. If you are going to use your non-legal name for one of them, bear in mind that you may need to speak to a bookkeeper to ensure you can process payments in that name.

Must-Hear Takeaways

“Let’s say you’re filming a TV series during the day and you’re also on stage at night. You would have to switch, right? So what techniques would you use for yourself as an actor as you already know you have to switch from this role to the other role? And I would use those same techniques to switch from your role as an actor to your role as a copywriter.” – Nicki

“If a task has been on your list for multiple days, then it’s too big. And so I think in your case, this might be a similar thing of instead of writing one pitch, break it down into all the teeny tiny steps that you need to do so that you can just chip away at it and not feel like you have to do this whole big thing. What are the micro steps you can take?” – Kate

“Copywriting is an awesome career. It’s awesome, but it’s still work, which means that there are plenty of days that you are not going to feel like doing it.” – Nicki

“If you know that the morning time is your most creative time, then don’t leave your copywriting until after you’ve done all of the other stuff because you’re going to come home, you’re going to be exhausted and your energy is not going to be there. You’re already exhausted from work and you’re just naturally going to try to fight yourself.” – Nicki

Related Links

• Copywriting as a Creative Outlet for an Actor – James’s Story
• Can Copywriting Be a Side Hustle?
• Ep. 55: Building a Copywriting Side Hustle With a Full-Time Job – Claire’s Story
• Ep. 75: How to Be a Part-Time Copywriter with a Full-Time Job – Catching Up with Alicia

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Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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[2:40] Karen had never heard about copywriting before seeing a Facebook Ad about the CCA and realized that it was what she wanted to do next in her life!

[4:50] In addition to working as copywriter Karen has a full schedule, including homeschooling her two children who are living with autism.

[6:45] While she initially had a lot of concerns about balancing building her business, working as a copywriter and caring for her children, Karen has been able to semi-retire her husband from his full time job and he has stepped into many of those roles she was previously juggling.

[11:30] Karen’s day starts at 6am and she starts her day with a walk on her treadmill and a video or a book for professional development.

[13:20] Karen is working 20-25 hours a week as a copywriter and is projecting to make over six figures in 2023. She has found that email marketing is her specialty and something she is good at, and she’s used that skill to really build her business.

[17:20] She is now working to build her own business, helping parents of children with autism care for themselves as caregivers and manage stress.

Must-Hear Takeaways

As with every episode, we highly encourage you to listen to the entire conversation! But here are a few of the highlights:

“It still tickles me—I get so excited—people give me money because I give them words. The concept that I could earn an amazing living writing was so motivating for me.” – Karen

“I spent 10 years in the restaurant industry—waitress, bartender. And then I moved on to working for a construction company as an office manager. And then … went to massage school. I did that for several years. Unfortunately … I had to close that down … But I got bored. I don’t like to be bored in case you can’t tell, so I started a handmade soap business when my daughter was about six months old. I did that for about two years until we really started getting all of the kids’ diagnoses and having to start therapies. I would consider my early parenting years to also be a full-time job. Doing anywhere from 20 to 30 appointments a week for all the support [my kids] needed … my copy business was a break!” – Karen

“It’s not possible to be all the things for everyone, you deserve time for yourself!” – Karen

• Karen’s Portfolio
• Out of Your Ordinary
• FREE: Self-Care Guidebook for Parents of Autistic Kids

Check Out More Stories From Moms Who Became Copywriters

• Copywriting Lets This Mom Live Life on Her Own Terms
• Raising a Family and Building a Copywriting Business—Peta’s Story
• From Financial Professional to Copywriter—Chaundell’s Story
• Building a Copywriting Business as a Mom

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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Ep. 131: Can You Make $10,000 Month with Copywriting?

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[1:45] After seeing a Facebook ad for the CCA and viewing the free training video, Melissa decided to make the jump into copywriting. She was looking for a change and considering freelancing and copywriting fit the bill!

[3:20] Melissa had a background in social services and working within the housing and immigration areas. Due to a few factors and some health issues Melissa decided to make a change and become her own boss.

[8:00] Melissa found that many skills from her previous job have served her very well as a copywriter.

[11:25] Starting the journey felt slow, but now looking back Melissa can see how far she’s come and the new skills she’s developed. In that year she has transitioned to 100% freelance and is working 20-25 hours per week.

[13:43] Everyone’s journey is unique. And while that sounds cliche it is important to remember.

[15:30] Melissa was able to replace her income in three months, and in 2022 ended up earning 50% more than she would have brought home from her previous job.

[19:30] Melissa deals with a health condition that causes increased exhaustion and fatigue. Being her own boss as a freelance copywriter allows her to rest when needed and keep her own well being in the forefront.

[23:00] The method of pitching that is taught in the CCA sets up freelancers like Melissa to avoid income and work gaps. The copywriter is in control and always have the ability to bring in clients.

[25:30] Melissa encourages new copywriters to take risks, but be calculated in what risks you take to avoid putting too much on the line.

[30:30] Nicki encourages Melissa and all the listeners to examine what we consider “hard;” perhaps it’s maybe just uncomfortable but not hard.

“I think back to this time last year when I was first getting started on LinkedIn and I was going, ‘But if I post this what will people think? People will judge me! Someone I know might read this and that would be terrible!’ Whereas now I’m just not thinking on that level anymore. I’m going ‘Is this going to be useful to people? Is this going to achieve the goals that I have for it?’ And just putting it out there.” – Melissa

“It does get easier, specifically putting yourself out there. It can feel really personal at first, when you pitch someone and you don’t get a reply. That can feel like a steep rejection. And it just isn’t.” – Melissa

“You set a goal, you set a milestone and then you get there and you just kind of forget to stop and celebrate it because you’re already thinking about the next thing. You’re already thinking, ‘OK, what’s my next project? What’s my next goal? Who’s my next client going to be?’ Remembering, having the discipline to sit down and go, ‘Oh, I’ve achieved the thing. I’m going to give myself a pat on the back and tell my mom and just generally appreciate this is how far I’ve come.” – Melissa

“Just even the concept of a year. ‘Oh a year is so long.’ But you know the thing is, a year is going to pass anyway. So at the end of the year, you can either still be in that full-time job going ‘ugh, why am I still doing this? I need to find something else!’ Or you can start moving toward that new career and at the end of the year have made progress. It’s going to pass no matter what—we get to choose how we spend that time.” – Nicki

“Every time that you’re reaching beyond your usual comfort zone, those same feelings are the ones that are coming up again … those uncomfortable feelings you get when you’re first doing something. You’re a brand new copywriter going ‘Can I actually charge someone for me to write for them?’ But then when you meet the next challenge, on the face of it, it’s a much bigger thing, it’s a much bigger achievement you may be looking at … but it’s exactly the same feelings. So as you’re going through those smaller steps, you’re training yourself to know how to manage those feelings.” – Melissa

Mentioned on this Episode:

• Melissa’s Portfolio: Reallygoodcopy.com
• Melissa’s LinkedIn
• Ep. 32: Starting a Copywriting Business with a Chronic Illness – Dorothy’s Story

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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Ep. 122: 3 Steps to Taking Time Off as a Freelancer

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[1:16] Our hosts introduce CCA student and part-time copywriter, Alicia Castro. Nicki adds that her last appearance on the podcast continues to be a hit with listeners because of the great advice Alicia has about copywriting with a full-time job.

[2:38] Alicia mentions that as her full-time role progresses it continues to be important to manage her time to allow for her copywriting work. She notes that having a disciplined schedule helps her keep her balance between roles.

[5:32] Nicki praises Alicia for recognizing that her part-time copywriting is also running a business. She mentions that it can be difficult to acknowledge that fact, but once you do it makes it a lot easier to use your time efficiently for what your business needs.

[8:09] Setting boundaries is important, especially when trying to balance your copywriting with the rest of your life. Alicia talks about how sticking to these boundaries will not only protect your time but also earn respect from your clients.

[12:18] Alicia explains that allowing enough time for concepting and planning is the key to using your project time efficiently. She talks about how quickly the writing can come after there is a strong foundation set through careful strategizing.

[15:05] It can be easy when working both full-time and part-time to accidentally spend all of your time working. Alicia offers the incredible advice that in order to be a great copywriter you need to go out and live life so that you have a story to tell.

[19:42] Alicia speaks to nerves or fear around copywriting projects She recommends setting clear expectations for yourself and being prepared to learn from every experience while working with clients.

[27:17] Nicki jumps in to point out that Alicia has a super successful process in that she lets her clients know what the next step is. Not only does this make your life easier, but it also makes the clients life easier because they know what to do next.

[31:42] Alicia gives a great tip in to only allow clients to comment on a document versus letting them edit it straightforward. This adds to the collaborative process and allows for all parties to be on the same page.

[33:12] Kate asks Alicia to talk about some of the projects that excite her and speak to her passions. Alicia talks about how she loves to help empower women through her copywriting business.

[42:42] Nicki shares Alicia’s website (see related links below) and Alicia talks about what she can help clients with.

[43:42] Nicki thanks Alicia for her time and for checking back in. Then, Alicia mentions that all of her success in copywriting was made possible by the CCA.

Related Links

• Alicia’s Website

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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Ep. 74: Copywriting Checklist: 5 Things to Check Before Submitting Copy

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[1:00] We are introduced to our hosts and their guest, Claire, a CCA student and a copywriter who created her business while also balancing a full-time job.

[5:00] Claire takes us along on her journey through the CCA and why she chose to keep her full-time job (which is completely unrelated to copywriting or marketing) while beginning to work as a copywriter on the side.

[7:30] Nicki and Kate ask their guest to go through what a typical day looks like for her, and how she manages to stay on schedule with both endeavors.

[10:35] The great thing about copywriting as a side hustle is that you can do it anytime. You do not need to work within set hours, you can do it anytime of the day. It’s really flexible and if you have to take a client call during the day, aim for lunchtime.

[14:45] Nicki asks Claire what her concerns and hesitancies were before enrolling in the CCA and what initially held her back from a copywriting career.

[18:00] Claire explains how it’s not hard to make time for her copywriting job as it doesn’t feel like work and she enjoys spending her time writing copy.

[21:00] It’s important to not try to do too much too fast and let yourself burn out. You have to be aware of the hours you are putting in so it’s sustainable.

[25:30] Learning to balance multiple clients, regardless if you are working full time or part time, is an important skill that comes with experience.

Related Links

• Building a Copywriting Business While Working at 9 to 5
• Can Copywriting Be a Side Hustle?

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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Ep. 54: Post-Interview Must Dos (Part 3 of 3)

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Note: We mention “Pitch-a-palooza” on this episode, which is an annual four-week event for Comprehensive Copywriting Academy students that gets everyone writing and sending their first pitches.

[2:00] We start today’s episode meeting Kate Kosydar (a.k.a. Kate K). She takes us on her journey from working for a non profit to copywriting back in 2019.

[5:00] As Kate K recaps her career transition, we find out that, while she went from working full time to working part time, she is making almost double her previous salary!

[9:45] We hear about Kate K’s coaching call with Kate S, and how that interaction gave her the validation that she needed to start pitching clients.

[12:00] Kate K tells our hosts how pitching used to be anxiety inducing and stressful, but as she has done it more and more she has a lot more confidence her in herself and her process.

[17:00] Kate K, Nicki, and Kate S all agree that it’s a struggle to find the balance of having enough work and feeling like you have enough work, while still pitching new clients.

[20:30] Nicki takes a minute to reiterate how important it is to follow the steps and do the work now for a payoff later. Our guest and hosts agree that the metaphor of a train represents the journey of a freelance copywriter—it takes a lot of work to get the career moving in the beginning, but once you gain speed on the track, it’s easier to maintain that movement!

[24:45] Kate K gives us insight on the appeal of freelancing. She works with who she wants to work with, when she wants to work, and takes on projects that fit her schedule and needs.

[28:00] What is next for Kate K? She is excited to be focusing more on copywriting after finishing up a current contract, and continues to enjoy taking ownership of her career.

[30:45] A WIN for Kate K and her family: they have successfully paid off all student loans and aside from their mortgage are living completely debt free! That’s amazing, Kate!

[35:00] As she has built up her career Kate K is happy to be able to pitch companies that she values and have value in the world.

[39:45] Kate S mentions a podcast with Glennon Doyle that she heard that discussed how as we change, our identities change, and it’s okay to let go of the old identities if that’s not what you are now—much like Kate K’s career transition.

[43:00] We end with the message that a career doesn’t have to be linear. It’s okay to struggle in the transitions and often we find benefits to working through those hard times.

Mentioned in This Episode

• Kate’s Portfolio
• Glennon Doyle Wants you to Abandon Identity

Related Links

• How Do I Know If I’m Ready to Pitch Copywriting Clients? The Three Steps to Career Change

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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Ep. 35: Why Some Copywriters Fail

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[1:00] Nicki introduces their guest for this episode – Grace Nelson. Grace and her business partner Charlotte work with women starting online businesses with their Think.Create.Initiate approach. They emphasize identity work and business strategy to get their clients results.

[2:15] Nicki asks Grace how she came up with her business plan and concept. Grace starts from the beginning and explains her path from wine nights with her best friend (Charlotte) to snowballing their business into what it is today.

[5:30] Grace talks about how their business transitioned to focusing on online businesses and also how they fell into the role of business coaching for their clients. Once this evolution happened, they niched to focus on women business owners, specifically those starting a business while still working a 9-to-5 job.

[8:25] Nicki asks Grace what she thinks the biggest challenges people face when starting their business while they are also working a full-time job. Grace goes on to talk about prioritizing time, focusing on mindset shifts, and overall commitment and discipline to sitting down and doing what needs to be done.

[12:15] Grace discusses with Nicki and Kate how moving from corporate life to a self-owned business is an identity shift. You go from working for somebody else to being the sole decision maker, wearing all the hats. It’s a big jump!

[13:55] The conversation continues on to highlight the lack of mindset training in the corporate world. You begin to question whether you are really growing in the positions you are in.

[15:25] What’s holding you back from really going out there? Are you holding yourself back? Or do you need more support? Grace dives even deeper into what it means to shift your mindset into being a business owner (without losing your sanity!).

[16:00] Grace, Nicki, and Kate talk about the importance of overcoming feelings and “doing it anyways.” If you let your feelings of worry and fear dictate your actions, you will never get out of your comfort zone and reach your goals.

[19:00] Just because you are in business does not mean you have to take on every client that comes your way. Grace suggests making a list of qualities you want in a client as well as a list of qualities you do not want in a client. Set boundaries and maintain them!

[20:00] Nicki discusses an important question to ask yourself. Do you value education or entertainment? You can say you value education all you want but binging Schitt’s Creek on Netflix is probably prioritizing entertainment. It is totally fine to make entertainment the priority for your down time but if you want to progress your business further and reach some of your more lofty goals, one less episode and 30 more minutes spent educating yourself can go a long way.

[23:30] Grace talks about how words are powerful but energy is what brings people in. Cultivating that confidence and energy to bring to clients will grow your business better than practically anything.

[25:50] Grace talks about the importance of knowing who your client is, where they are at, what their aspirational identity is, and where they want to go. This will help determine how you approach the business and then, you go into the mindset shifting. Grace works with her clients to reverse self-sabotaging behaviors and really emphasize finding focus.

[27:25] Most people starting a business want their business to be successful and that means sales, marketing, and talking to potential clients. As Grace says, marketing is your money maker!

[31:15] Nicki, Grace, and Kate talk about goals. You see a goal so far away that it feels unattainable but after a while of chugging along and getting things done those benchmarks start to get hit and you will find yourself ascending to whatever next level is for you.

Mentioned on this episode:

• 23 Ways to Get Clients cheat sheet
• @femalestartupscommunity
• @iamgracenelson
• @the_charlotte_barrett_official

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A Sneak Peek at the Episode

[3:00] Alicia explains her creative process, including the importance of writing a creative brief and having a discovery call. All of the up-front work allows the writing process to go more smoothly and is what ensures she can balance her 9-to-5 job with her copywriting business.

[7:00] With a full-time job, Alicia was having a hard time finding motivation to write. She talks about what has helped her gain inspiration when digging into a project, including swipe files and writing the call to action first and then writing everything leading up to it.

[11:40] Many of Alicia’s clients are solopreneurs or have small teams where they’re still doing all the things. She explains how she partners with her clients to ensure their messaging is dialed in and is positioned in the right way.

[18:50] Alicia talks about her own transformative experiences buying courses and programs and how that experience has impacted her. She also shares, as an introvert, the importance of having a community.

[22:07] Having been in situations where her copy has been torn apart, Alicia explains how she approaches a complete rework. She also digs into how she refocused her efforts and was able to get clients to say things like, “Oh my god, you’re in my head!”

[28:02] Alicia shares her advice on choosing a niche and why she recommends being open to writing different kinds of copy. She also shares her tips for those who, like her, struggle with brevity.

[35:31] Looking back on what she’s learned, one thing Alicia recommends is looking at copy proposals from a copy perspective. For larger projects, she explains how important it is to anticipate any objections and clearly highlight the transformation that they’ll get by going with her services.

[41:07] For those just getting started in copywriting, she emphasizes the importance of reading and looking at the copy that is all around you every day, as well as giving yourself time to learn it.

Mentioned on this Episode

• Glorious Copy Co.

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• How to Be a Part-Time Copywriter
• Can Copywriting Be a Side Hustle?

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About the Build Your Business Podcast

Ready to turn your love of writing into a successful copywriting career?

Join professional copywriters Nicki Krawczyk and Kate Sitarz to get the tips, tools, and training to help you become a copywriter and build a thriving business of your own. Nicki and Kate have 20+ and 10+ years of experience, respectively, writing copy for multi-billion-dollar companies, solopreneurs, and every size business in between.

Whether you want to land an on-staff job, freelance full-time and work from wherever you want, or make extra money with a side hustle, the best place to start learning is right here.

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